Theodore Ts'o <tytso@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 09:57:55AM -0500, John Leslie wrote: >> Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>] 3. Eighty Percent of Success is Showing Up >>]... >> >> We cannot reasonably hope to change human nature -- least of all by >> writing one RFC -- but surely we can do something to ameliorate this >> economic disincentive? > > I've always thought this is a feature, but a bug. (Quoted without comment...) > The reality is that there are a huge numbers of net.kooks out there. Oh my! :^( :^( > It may be politically incorrect to say that, but it's true. Absolutely! Just count those Linux kooks! ;^) > So if you are trying to pariticpate remotely, it's possible, but you > have to be really, really good with your technical presentations, > your evidence, with sample implementations, perhaps a huge installed > base, etc. Umm... You're welcome to think that, if it makes you feel better... > (And funny that, if you have all of this, it's likely that some > company will be quite willing to fund you to show up to an IETF > meeting.) You're welcome to think that, too... > Other standards committees have other ways of filtering out kooks. "Born: 1968"... You must have been around in the 1990's... Anyone who lived through Usenet should have learned _many_ ways to filter out "kooks"... > ... Quite frankly, I find the IETF setup of requiring the investment > of in-person face time to be a far better way of solving the "how do > you filter out the koooks and make progress while still being open" > than what I've seen in other standards settings processes. But _my_ question is, why does the "IETF" need to filter out the "kooks?" -- John Leslie <john@xxxxxxx>