At 00:24 27-02-2014, Abdussalam Baryun wrote: >Clubing in private (i. e. closed from access) or hiding its powers >should be not allowed in any IETF processes. If you have a club just >announce it. I remember Adrian send a message saying that two ADs >had same organisation affiliation and that one should leave the IETF >position which was excellent process and proves high performance of >IESG but what about WGs. Hi, For the avoidance of doubt, I did not say "one [of the Routing ADs] should leave the IETF position" I explained how the two Routing ADs would try to operate to avoid any issues of bias (or seeming bias) caused by our shared affiliation. Abdussalam might like to look through the WG chairs page at http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ to see how many WGs are chaired by people with the same affiliation. I think he will find it an exceptionally low number. The situation arises from time to time when people change jobs, but ADs usually attempt to avoid appointing into that position. If it was ever a problem, you can be sure the community would be shouting about it. Adrian