>This is a healthy discussion. However, if you really care about these >issues (i.e., what constitutes "participation" in an IETF discussion for >purposes of triggering an IPR disclosure) then debating it in the context >of the "Note Well" language is, to put it mildly, a waste of time. The >actual "rules" that govern this issue are contained in BCP79, ... I leared a long time ago that it is futile to try to make people pay attention when they don't want to. (Any parent of a teenager or of a toddler can confirm this.) So I don't see much point in a notice beyond something like this: This is an IETF meeting. The rules you agreed to when you registered, including those about conduct and about intellectual property apply here. R's, John