On Jan 3, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Eric Rosen <erosen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Well, here's a particularly egregious example of poor reasoning: "since it > is already possible for the Security ADs to abuse their power, giving them > more tools and more excuses for doing so will have no effect." An obvious > non-sequitur, but a good sound bite. The point of the IETF stating a position on this is not to give ADs another thing they can hassle document authors about. It is to formally encourage document authors and working groups to think about the issue. > Note the tone taken by proponents of the draft. It has been suggested that > critics are at best wasting everyone's time, and at worst unethical. I don't recall seeing anyone suggesting that. Maybe I missed something—there have been a lot of messages. I do see a flaming diatribe from you, though. If you are finding others' rhetoric uncomfortable, it might be worth listening to your own with a more critical ear! :}