On 12/11/13 6:44 PM, Ted Hardie wrote: > The reality is that it is not simply indistinguishable from an attack, > it represents actual harm to the use and users of the network. So that there's no doubt, I 100% agree. And so... > > If the language does change, I could see value in saying "Pervasive > monitoring represents a threat" and "We will work to mitigate that > threat"; Absolutely we should. Where practical to do so (and I do expect that to evolve over time). Eliot