Re: IETF must use only UTC in its announcements (Was: Live Streaming of the IETF 88 Technical Plenary

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Hi ned+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,

--On October 30, 2013 at 7:52:55 AM -0700 ned+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Which argues for including the local time when the event will take
> place. If you want to mandate that the time also appear in UTC, great,
> but it's quite important that the local time also be there.

And local time should be normative to deal with such unforeseen
circumstances as a papal visit.  From the southamerica file in the TZ
database:

# From Daniel C. Sobral (1998-02-12):
# In 1997, the DS began on October 6. The stated reason was that
# because international television networks ignored Brazil's policy on
# DS, they bought the wrong times on satellite for coverage of Pope's
# visit. This year, the ending date of DS was postponed to March 1
# to help dealing with the shortages of electric power.

;-)

Good point. I agree.

Timezones can (and do) change at very short notice in different parts of the world. Typically computer systems have timezone data cached as part of the OS, and only get updates when the OS is itself updated - often long after a timezone change has occurred or long after future events were booked but are now out of sync for participants in different timezones. To address that a number of folks in the calendaring and scheduling community have been working om a timezone service protocol - <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-douglass-timezone-service/> - our initial focus for that has been iCalendar (RFC5545) based VTIMEZONE component delivery to calendar and scheduling clients and servers. However, we would like to also deliver OS-style timezone data to devices to break out of the requirement for those to be updated only when the OS itself updates. For unix-based OS's that means being able to deliver "raw" zoneinfo" data over that protocol.

Anyway, if you are interested in that work please comment over on the ietf-calsify list (cc'd) - we (the authors of that draft) - intend to get it moving to last call soon. There are already several implementations that have undergone testing at the Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium (CalConnect) interop events, so we are happy with it, but would appreciate more feedback.

--
Cyrus Daboo





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