On Oct 20, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The high-order bit is whether we can separate the functions of > (a) steering the work of the IETF and (b) applying final quality > control to the documents. At the moment, these two jobs are bound > up with each other in the IESG. It's worth noting that there is a synergy between steering, managing working groups and reviewing documents; if you separate out document review, some of what IESG members need to engage in steering and managing may go away. BTW, steering doesn't mean dictating the direction the IETF goes; it means being aware of issues that are cropping up, identifying themes that are common, and trying to make people who have less of a bird's-eye view aware of them. It's not clear to me that you can get this view without consuming a fairly significant amount of time. Joel's two hours a day is probably enough, but I wouldn't want to see it go a whole lot less than that.