--On Friday, October 18, 2013 07:35 +1300 Dave Crocker <dhc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 10/18/2013 3:54 AM, Tim Chown wrote: >> I believe the "intense service" you mention is a significant >> deterrent for many. >> >> I'm sure it's been suggested before, but is there mileage in >> rethinking the AD roles, > > > It has been suggested many times. The suggestion has been > ignored. > > We have been having some very serious recruitment problems for > a number of years now. This year's crisis was entirely > predictable. > > The only way the situation will change meaningfully is to make > the job less onerous, and especially make it possible for the > AD to continue doing real work for their company. > > ADs are senior folk. That makes them a strategic resource for > their company. Or, at least, they'd better be. Only very > large companies can afford to lose a strategic resource for > years. > > Looking for alternative funding does not make the job less > onerous and does not permit the AD to continue doing real work > for their company. > > Re-define the bloody job. At a minimum, make the workload > realistically no more than 50%, but I actually suggest trying > for 25%, given that reality will increase the actual amount > above that. > > This means taking the current list of AD tasks and deciding on > the ones that absolutely cannot be done by others, and > specifying other ways to do the remainder. Agree completely (our notes crossed in the mail). But, again, the Nomcom can't fix this, at least for this year's selections. And one thing that has prevented the job from being trimmed back is resistance from sitting ADs (sometimes public and vigorous and sometimes passive refusal to consider procedural changes or discuss them with the community, but nonetheless blocking resistance). I would support advising the Nomcom that no one should be placed on, or returned to, the IESG unless the Nomcom members were convinced that the candidates considered reducing the size of the role both appropriate and a high priority. I don't believe there has ever been sufficient community consensus for that. I'd be delighted to be wrong. john