On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Hector Santos <hsantos@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 7/10/2013 5:17 PM, Josh Howlett wrote: >> >> >>>> Day passes have nothing to do with it. >>> >>> >>> I disagree. Day passes encourage the notion that it's normal to >>> parachute into the IETF to attend a single session. I think that the >>> IETF's strength is that we don't totally compartmentalise work items. >> >> >> I am perplexed that there is, on the one hand, a (valid, IMHO) concern >> about increasing IETF diversity & participation, when there appears to be >> an active policy of discouraging potential participants who simply wish to >> get work done in some specific sessions. Superficially, it would seem that >> making participation more flexible and affordable might help to improve >> diversity & participation. >> >> Josh. > > > > +1 Thank you. Well said. I had very little limited time but I wanted to > blast by Orlando from Miami (by car) and attend just one day, just to meet > the folks I often have electronic battles with over the years. But the > daily cost was a little too much and I certainly didn't want (nor ready) to > stay an entire week to make it cost effective. Perhaps it is a minor issue > to attract local area interest, since that would be the only advantage for a > daily attendance cost. > > It seems to be too much contradictory discussion about diversity. I don't > have too much confidence anything will be improved. > +1 Just because I want to attend all week doesn't mean everybody else should also want to do the same, or can afford the time and expense. Back when I was RMONMIB WG Chair, it was difficult to get developers to attend the IETF. They were too busy implementing the RFCs to spend an entire week at the IETF. They really didn't want to expand their horizons and attend extra meetings for WGs they didn't follow. I think a 1-day pass would have helped a little, since one still has to make travel plans in advance of the final agenda. It seems to me that a cheap 1 day pass and ultra-cheap 1 day student pass would encourage local people to attend their first IETF. > -- > HLS > Andy