+1! On 6/20/13 3:13 PM, Arturo Servin wrote: > > Thank you Bob and the IAOC for taking the time to analize the > possiblities of a meeting outside North America, Europe and Asia. > > Independently of the result, I think it had been a good opportunity > for many of us to take advantage of the momentum and to initiate some > actions to promote the IETF. > > Regards, > as > > > On 6/21/13 1:00 AM, The IAOC wrote: >> The IAOC would like to thank all the people who commented on the IETF >> list and responded to the survey. It was very helpful to the IAOC in >> identifying issues and interest. >> >> As of 17 June 2013, the survey had 656 responses. This was more >> responses than for any other survey we have done, and is more than >> half of the number of people who usually attend an IETF meeting. >> >> Of the unfiltered data, 72.3% said they would very likely or likely >> attend a meeting in Buenos Aires. 13.3% said unlikely or very >> unlikely. Of these 17.1% have not attended an IETF meeting and 38.7% >> are not on a committee, WG chair, I-D author, or full time student. In >> this group 169 people (25.7%) were from South America, Latin America, >> or the Caribbean. The unfiltered survey results can be found at: >> >> http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/SurveySummary_Unfiltered_06172013.pdf >> >> Applying a filter of only looking at the most active participants >> (that is, IESG, IAB, IAOC, NomCom members, WG chairs, and I-D authors) >> the Likely and Very Likely is 71.8% indicated they will attend, and >> 13.8% said they were unlikely or very unlikely. In this group 26 >> people (7.0%) were from South America, Latin America, or the >> Caribbean. Also, this group of the most active participants was Likely >> or Very Likely to attend London at 85.9% (higher than South America) >> and Yokohama at 68.4% (lower than South America). The filtered survey >> results can be found at: >> >> http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/SurveySummary_Active_06172013-1.pdf >> >> Based on these survey results, we conclude there would be good >> attendance at a meeting in Buenos Aires overall, good attendance from >> people in the region, and that most active participants will attend. >> Active participants would attend at similar rates to their attendance >> at other IETF meetings. From this viewpoint, holding a meeting in >> Buenos Aires appears to be similar holding it in other locations >> around the world. >> >> The results from the survey by itself do not mean we should have an >> IETF meeting in Buenos Aires, but it does eliminate several reasons >> why we should not have a meeting there. >> >> The harder questions as discussed on the IETF list relate to if we >> should have a meeting in Buenos Aires. >> >> The first part of this relates to whether having a single meeting in >> South America will increase IETF participation from that region and >> increase the diversity in the IETF. This was discussed a lot on the >> IETF list. We agree that a single meeting isn't sufficient. We have >> been talking with the Internet Society (ISOC) about programs and >> events that could be held in the region leading up to and following an >> IETF meeting in the region. They said that ISOC is planning to hold a >> series of events and programs in South America. This would include: >> >> - Increasing the IETF Fellows and policy makers from the region >> - Local meetings about IETF technologies >> - Local meetings about Internet deployment approaches >> - Local meetings with general information on how the IETF works and >> how to participate >> >> The more detailed plan we received from ISOC can be found at: >> >> http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/ISOC%20Activities%20supporting%20IETF%20in%20LAC.pdf >> >> The IAOC thinks that scheduling an IETF meeting in Beunos Aires and >> announcing a series of events will increase the participation from >> this region and may improve the IETF's cultural diversity. >> >> The other general questions raised on the list are why should we do >> this and will having a meeting in South America really help with the >> issues we see relating to advancing the IETF in political and >> international circles. Some people expressed skepticism that this >> would really help. We don't think we can prove this factually, it is a >> judgment call to a large extent, but we think the combination of the >> IETF meeting and the ISOC events in the region will help. >> >> The IAOC will proceed with planning a single meeting in Buenos Aires >> based on what we have heard from the community, the survey, and our >> discussions with ISOC regarding organizing events in South America. We >> will also continue to track attendance from participants in all >> regions. >> >> We thank you for providing feedback on the IETF list and for >> responding to the survey. >> >> Bob Hinden >> IAOC Chair >