>>>>> "Black," == Black, David <david.black@xxxxxxx> writes: Black,> The next to last paragraph on p.3 begins with this sentence: Black,> For these reasons, channel binding MUST be implemented by Black,> peers, EAP servers and AAA servers in environments where EAP Black,> authentication is used to access application layer services. Black,> It appear that this "MUST" requirement applies to all uses Black,> of EAP, including network access authentication, not just Black,> application layer access authentication. If so, that's not Black,> immediately obvious from the text, and an additional Black,> sentence should be added to make this clearer. If not, the Black,> above sentence needs to exclude network access Black,> authentication from that requirement. I know you're correct that AAA servers and EAP servers need to implement channel binding for network access in such environments. I'm not sure whether peers only doing network access SHOULD implement channel binding or MUST implement channel binding. Practically speaking, it will be a while before peers implement channel binding for network access. The sorts of attacks that result without channel binding are attacks where a peer thinks it is doing network access authentication but what it's really doing is helping an attacker access an application. If all the application access peers support channel binding, then you could potentially require the eap-lower-layer attribute or similar for application authentication and work securely in environments where peers for network access have not been updated yet. It's also kind of tempting to stick our head in the sand and just add the clarification that "yes, we mean network access too." --Sam