> Asking IETF WG chairs to deal with passwords is a bit silly. Maybe they could be emailed a monthly reminder of their personal subscription password on the first of each month. Lloyd Wood http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/ ________________________________________ From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stephen Farrell [stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: 06 June 2013 14:12 To: IAB Chair Cc: IAB; IETF Subject: Re: Call for Review of draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt, "The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship" A couple of minor comments: - For some unfathomable reason IEEE people seem to call mailing lists "reflectors" - that might be worth a mention. Section 4 otherwise seems repetitive. - 3.3.1.4 says: Since it is possible to participate in IETF without attending meetings, or even joining a mailing list, IETF WG chairs will provide the information to anyone who requests it. However, since IEEE 802 work-in-progress is copyrighted, incorporating material into IETF documents or posting the username/password on mailing lists or websites is not permitted. That's a pretty bogus setup. I would think that if IEEE do want to share some or all drafts with us they could much more easily create a web page when those drafts are available without access control. Or we could if they didn't mind. (Or I could do it if there's no "we" that wants to:-) Asking IETF WG chairs to deal with passwords is a bit silly. I'm not objecting to this, but am suggesting someone ask IEEE if they'd like to consider the silliness here and fix it. S. On 06/05/2013 07:50 PM, IAB Chair wrote: > This is a call for review of "The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship" > prior to potential approval as an IAB stream RFC. > > The document is available for inspection here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-rfc4441rev/ > > The Call for Review will last until 20 June 2013. > Please send comments to iab@xxxxxxx. > > On behalf of the IAB, > Russ Housley > IAB Chair > >