Re: Not Listening to the Ops Customer (was Re: Issues in wider geographic participation)

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amen!  :)

On 31May2013Friday, at 17:23, Randy Bush wrote:

> < rant >
> 
> the sad fact is that the ietf culture is often not very good at
> listening to the (ops) customer.  look at the cf we have made out of
> ipv6.  the end user, and the op, want the absolute minimal change and
> cost, let me get an ipv6 allocation from the integer rental monopoly,
> flip a switch or two, and get 96 more bits no magic.  15 years later,
> dhcp is still a cf, i have to run a second server (why the hell does
> isc not merge them?), i can not use it for finding my gateway or vrrp
> exit, ...  at least we got rid of the tla/nla classful insanity.  but
> u/g?  puhleeze.
> 
> at ripe/dublin, olaf gave a really nice but somewhat glib talk about
> technology adoption, using dnssec and ipv6 as the positive examples.  as
> some curmudgeonly schmuck pointed out at the mic, dnssec is forward
> compatible and there are no alternatives, so it is being adopted despite
> its complexity and warts.  ipv6 is not forward compatible, we put
> unnecessary obstacles in the deployment path, and there are
> alternatives.  d o o m.
> 
> if we had wanted ipng deployed, we would have done everything we could
> to make it simple and easy for net-ops and end users to turn it on.
> instead, we made it complex and hard and then blame everyone else for
> not instantly adopting it en masse.  the ietf did not listen to or
> consider the customer.  this is fatal.  and the arrogance is taking what
> is left of the e2e internet down the drain with it.

</rant>
> 
> randy





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