Hi Spencer. I like your point. I think it is correct that collaboration is needed between all regions for many I-Ds or related I-Ds to the region participants interest. Cross-participation co-authoring between regions may make better results than co-authors from same region. Comments below, On 5/31/13, Spencer Dawkins <spencerdawkins.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > For those of you looking at where I-D and RFC authors are from, I'd like > to suggest one other thing to look at - the extent that participants are > co-authoring with folks outside their region. There are some I-Ds like that which was a result of meetings of an author team of different regions and same interest. I will add another interesting point, IMO, each region has different interests, so if you ask in diff-region meetings of the community interest you mostly get different responds but not if the attendance are the same persons. > > It's pretty tempting for new participants to submit drafts that they > like, and maybe reaching out to their office mates as co-authors, but to > be effective in the IETF, participants have to learn how to collaborate > with folks from other IETF sponsors (including "other IETF sponsors who > compete head-to-head with your IETF sponsor"), other countries, and > other regions. "Collaboration" covers many activities, but I'm curious > what we might learn from looking at this specific kind of collaboration. I agree totaly, > > <personal self-reveal> I say this to a lot of people who don't believe > me, but I have been shy for most of my life, and it's still not easy for > me to have conversations with total strangers. That's not a cultural > challenge, and it's not a language challenge, but it is a challenge I've > faced in the IETF as *I* was learning to collaborate. For anyone who is > also learning how to do this - for me, it's been worth it. I encourage you to continue your efforts for your progress (all have their special issues), which I think it is what IETF is about to make all learn for better Internet. I am experiencing a different situation while I am trying to have discussions with people I don't know in IETF, I get bad responses, and getting to know good people before I meet them. I am collaborating (in reviewing ideas not authoring, and a plan with one in future of authoring I-D) already with some that I never met but only remotely discussed in IETF. > And anyone is > welcome to join us for drumming at IETF meetings - I bring extra drums, > and there's no telling who else you'll meet. </personal self-reveal> > I will join, we actually can plan to co-author an I-D while drumming so we don't waste time, thanks :-) AB