--On Saturday, May 25, 2013 10:10 +0300 Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >... > I didn't know about the details of the emergency > communications situation. But it is always difficult to > balance getting something out early vs. complete. I know how > much pressure there is on the working groups to keep up with > things actually happening in the browsers and organisations > setting up to use this technology. Do you think the retrofit > will be problematic, and do you have a specific suggestion > about what should be included today? Jari, James will probably have a different answer and perspective, but I suggest that retrofits of security-sensitive features are so often problematic to make "always" not much of an exaggeration. I don't think there is any general solution to the "early vs. complete" tradeoff [1], nor, as long as we keep trying to deal with things as collections of disconnected pieces rather than systems, to the issues created by WGs with significant overlaps in either scope or technology. What I think we can do is to be particularly vigilant to be sure that the two WGs are tracking and frequently reviewing each other's work. At least RTCWEB and ECRIT are in the same area, which should make that coordination easier than it might be otherwise. john [1] Watch for a note about this that I've been trying to organize for about two weeks and hope to finish and post this weekend.