Carnival is usually around March (I think it moves around being linked to Easter like Mardi Gras). I priced flights for November and July from Northern California and it looks like there would be option at less than my travel to Berlin (and about 2 to 3 times travel to East Coast North America). Travel time is a longer than for Europe at about 24 hours, but not outrageously longer. I didn't try to price March because it is hard to get a feel for prices so far in advance - the airline isn't yet adjusting them for capacity. Pat -----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Richardson Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 7:13 AM To: ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: IETF Meeting in South America >>>>> "The" == The IAOC <bob.hinden@xxxxxxxxx> writes: The> The venues are in Buenos Aires. They meet our requirements for the meeting The> space, networking, nearby restaurants and bars, hotel room rates in the mid $200 The> dollar range, nearby alternate hotels at a broad range of prices, nice area in the The> city, safe, direct international flights, and accessible visas. The IAOC thinks we The> could have a successful IETF meeting in Buenos Aires and that attendees would The> like the venues. My question is about whether we would be there during the "peak" season, and when exactly is that season? I priced flights for me in July, November and March (2014). It seems that most flights go through Santiago or Sao Paulo, one went through Atlanta. The lowest cost flight for me is similiar to travel to Europe not in the summer, but the price rises quite quickly to the $4K range. The worse rise seems to be March, but that was also the furthest in the future. The> Things to consider are that it will be a long trip for the majority of IETFers and the The> air fares are more expensive (about 10% to 20% higher than average), though The> restaurants are less expensive. This would be a case where most IETFers would The> bear more travel pain and expense. What are the hotel costs? (I fund my own attendance) -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect [ ] mcr@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [