----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Berger" <lberger@xxxxxxxx> To: "Yoav Nir" <ynir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 5:07 PM Subject: Re: IETF Meeting in South America > > For Americans, is it much more expensive than a trip to Prague? > > I just happen to be looking at flights for berlin at the moment. BA is > pretty much the same +-$1600 if I'm willing to take an extra hop, closer > to $2K for one hop. > > I generally find going to Europe in the summer to be pretty expensive so > am not sure this is the best comparison. As metioned elsewhere in this > thread, time of year does matter. > > I personally am a big fan for going to uninteresting locations in their > off season. Although, perhaps I'm alone in liking Minneapolis in the > winter as an IETF destination... No, it is my favourite too (although Atlanta runs it close). I would not recommend London in the winter though, as it can be short of snow ploughs:-( Tom Petch > Lou > > On 5/24/2013 11:28 AM, Yoav Nir wrote: > > I used Expedia to price flights for me on March 2014: > > - Buenos Aires: $1401 (21h each way) > > - London (where the meeting actually happens): $413 (7h each way. Direct costs a bit more) > > - Vancouver: $1217 (24 h each way????? $1288 with a more reasonable 16h) > > - Honululu: $1535 (28h each way) > > - Melbourne (to minimize the pain for Mark): $2155 (36h) > > - Minneapolis: $1020 (18h) > > > > So Buenos Aires is not much more painful than some other destinations we've been talking about, and I believe the same will be true for most Europeans. For Americans, is it much more expensive than a trip to Prague? > > > > Yoav > > > > On May 24, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> > >>>>>>> "The" == The IAOC <bob.hinden@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> The> The venues are in Buenos Aires. They meet our requirements for the meeting > >> The> space, networking, nearby restaurants and bars, hotel room rates in the mid $200 > >> The> dollar range, nearby alternate hotels at a broad range of prices, nice area in the > >> The> city, safe, direct international flights, and accessible visas. The IAOC thinks we > >> The> could have a successful IETF meeting in Buenos Aires and that attendees would > >> The> like the venues. > >> > >> My question is about whether we would be there during the "peak" season, > >> and when exactly is that season? > >> > >> I priced flights for me in July, November and March (2014). > >> It seems that most flights go through Santiago or Sao Paulo, one went > >> through Atlanta. The lowest cost flight for me is similiar to travel to > >> Europe not in the summer, but the price rises quite quickly to the $4K > >> range. The worse rise seems to be March, but that was also the furthest > >> in the future. > >> > >> The> Things to consider are that it will be a long trip for the majority of IETFers and the > >> The> air fares are more expensive (about 10% to 20% higher than average), though > >> The> restaurants are less expensive. This would be a case where most IETFers would > >> The> bear more travel pain and expense. > >> > >> What are the hotel costs? > >> (I fund my own attendance) > >> > >> -- > >> ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ > >> ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect [ > >> ] mcr@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >