RE: IETF Meeting in South America

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Speaking as an IETF participator, it is good for IETF diversity. Many people will also enjoy to visit a new places with curious. Actually, Buenos Aires disappointed me when I found it was so similar to European cities.

Speaking as an Asian, last time I flight to Buenos Aires took me more than 30 hours door-to-door. Also, longer flight time means more expensive air tickets. As result, we may experience a meeting with much less Asian participators. I am not sure the increase of participators from other continents can meet the gap.

Best regards,

Sheng

>-----Original Message-----
>From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The
>IAOC
>Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:54 PM
>To: IETF Announcement List
>Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx
>Subject: IETF Meeting in South America
>
>As you may know the IAOC has been investigating the feasibility of having an
>IETF
>meeting in South America.  There was a site visit to South America last
>February.
>We have found two venues that we believe will support a successful IETF
>meeting
>and we would like to get feedback from the community.
>
>The venues are in Buenos Aires.  They meet our requirements for the
>meeting
>space, networking, nearby restaurants and bars, hotel room rates in the mid
>$200
>dollar range, nearby alternate hotels at a broad range of prices, nice area in
>the
>city, safe, direct international flights, and accessible visas.  The IAOC thinks
>we
>could have a successful IETF meeting in Buenos Aires and that attendees
>would
>like the venues.
>
>There has been a consistent level of IETF participation from South and Central
>America, and it has been growing since IETF82.  The data on this is posted at
>
>   http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/IETF-Regional-Attendance-00.pdf.
>
>The current meeting regional rotation (announced at IETF79) allows for an
>occasional IETF meeting outside of our main regions (Europe, North America,
>Asia/Pacific).
>
>IETF standards are made more valuable the more relevant they are and the
>more
>uptake they get.  IETF standards are also made more robust when all
>perspectives
>are represented during their development.  Encouraging growing
>participation
>will help strengthen the Internet, further encourage participation from those
>areas
>that will see the most growth in the coming years, and will help advance the
>IETF
>in political and international circles which is becoming more of an imperative.
>
>We have asked the IESG for their feedback and they are supportive of a
>meeting in
>South America if there is community support and active participants attend.
>
>Things to consider are that it will be a long trip for the majority of IETFers and
>the
>air fares are more expensive (about 10% to 20% higher than average), though
>restaurants are less expensive.  This would be a case where most IETFers
>would
>bear more travel pain and expense.
>
>The IAOC would like to understand if the IETF community thinks that the IETF
>should have a meeting in the next few years in Buenos Aires.  The IAOC
>would
>also like to get feedback on how we can ensure the meeting is as successful
>as
>possible and on ways to grow participation in the region.
>
>We have set up a survey at  https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/NWYLQCD
>where
>you can indicate your likelihood of attending, and we encourage you to send
>your
>general feedback to the IETF list <ietf@xxxxxxxx>.
>
>Thanks,
>Bob Hinden
>IAOC Chair





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