--On Thursday, May 09, 2013 03:32 -0500 Spencer Dawkins <spencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > So in this case, we're looking at "RFC Editor state" = > "Heather, please do something" + "some working group, please > do something" + "author(s), please do something", and we can't > tell how much time to attribute to each of these ... You could further add to that list "RFC Production Center, please do something" (different from an RSE wait, which is, or at least ought to be, more significant) and "IESG or appropriate AD, please do something", which does happen. But the RFC Editor's numbers try (almost always successfully) to separate the two "waiting on the RFC Editor Function to do something" (Heather plus Production Center plus, in principle, Publisher) from the other states. Those other states could, from their point of view, be aggregated into "stuck, someone else's problem". If we are looking for issues with IETF end-game process, we need to parse those, but that is a different sort of question in terms of data-gathering and reporting. best, john