Re: [spfbis] [dnsext] Obsoleting SPF RRTYPE

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On Tue 30/Apr/2013 01:07:42 +0200 Mark Andrews wrote:
> 
> 	The really annoying thing is that SPF is techically superior
> 	to TXT is lots of ways.
> 
> 	1. It uniquely identifies the roll of the record.
> 
> 	2. As SPF records are singletons you don't need to identify
> 	   and remove the old record when updating.  You can just
> 	   remove all SPF record and add the replacement.
> 
> 	   For TXT you need to lookup the existing RRset, extract
> 	   the v=spf1 record from it.  You then need to create a
> 	   UPDATE message to delete just that record as well as add
> 	   the new TXT record.   You then have to hope that no one
> 	   else is performing a simultanious update as you may get
> 	   two TXT v=spf1 records in the RRset.

That's true, except that one has TXT records anyway.

> 	The complains about using SPF is that there are broken
> 	firewalls and some servers drop queries for it, some registars
> 	don't support it.

Nits, as explained below.  The basic fact that killed the SPF type is
the ability to use TXT as a replacement.  There must be an analogous
of Gresham's law:  "Bad types drive out good ones."

> 	For firewalls, fix/replace the firewall if you intend to
> 	deploy SPF and it doesn't support it.  It is total !@##@#
> 	that firewall are incapable of handling new DNS record
> 	types.  New records we exected to occur from the very
> 	beginning and have been coming out regularly ever since the
> 	DNS was invented.  Firewall vendors that are incapable of
> 	handling new DNS types are incompetent and do not deserve
> 	repeat business.
> 
> 	For servers than drop SPF queries they really are at the
> 	noise level.  When you identify one you complain to the
> 	owners of it.  Yes, that does work.  We needed to do that
> 	for AAAA records.
> 
> 	For registrars, change registrar to one that does.

While it's too late for SPF, we can learn this lesson.




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