On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:23 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > > Two suggestions that seemed easier to send in email than to > stand in the mic line that I'd encourage people to think about... > > (1) I've found the Newcomer's Meet-and-Greet very useful in > finding newcomers I want to keep and eye on and try to help move > along and my personal instincts are to go for diversity in those > decisions. But those sessions are open only to WG Chairs and > IAB and IESG members --people who tend to be among the more > overextended in terms of schedules-- in addition to the > newcomers. So those sessions are more useful for giving > newcomers an opportunity to meet relevant WG Chairs (for > example) than for setting up any sort of mentoring relationship. > It may be worth thinking a bit about some other ways of > establishing relevant contacts, perhaps (as is done with ISOC > IETF Fellows) even getting those relationships in place before > the newcomer shows up. [MB] What I find interesting is that there was 200+ newcomers, but I certainly didn't find that many at the meet and greet. I have to wonder whether this doesn't have to do with the overlap between Sunday tutorials and this event. I think that needs to be fixed. Another comment about the meet and greet is that I see far more WG chairs chatting with one another as opposed to newcomers. While I find that there is rarely new comers to RAI area, just welcoming these folks is really important independent of technical area of interest. I also try to find the WG chairs that are in that area. I regularly talk to at least 10 newcomers - and do chide some of you all that are not chatting with newcomers ;) I can't imagine as a newcomer approaching a group of WG chairs to introduce myself. The chairs should be actively seeking out newcomers at these event. One question I have is whether there isn't a list for newcomers to ask questions that some of us can be on to help them before they get to the meeting? It is incredibly rare for a newcomer to ask questions on the IETF discussion. Also, it might help to setup a mentoring group and related mailing list and perhaps a wiki where folks that are willing to be mentors put their names and areas of focus and expertise. This could be helpful to both newcomers and folks that are interested in learning about new areas. [/MB] > > (2) This applies to leadership development as well as to the > diversity and mentoring issues in particular, but the focus on > WG Chairs and I* members tends to exclude and underutilize what > should be an important resource. There are a bunch of people > around who have retired from formal leadership positions (and > who are trying to stay retired). At least in principle, we have > more flexible time than, e.g., an IESG member. We should be > available for mentoring -- it is probably the most important > thing we can do. But the system isn't well-organized now to > utilize us in that way and probably we should be thinking > together about how to improve that. [MB] Yeah. Again, if we had a mentor group and mailing list that could be helpful. [/MB] > > john > > > >