On 03/03/2013 20:14, Michael Richardson wrote: >>>>>> "Eric" == Eric Burger <eburger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Eric> There are two other interpretations of this situation, neither > Eric> of which I think is true, but we should consider the > Eric> possibility. The first is the TSV is too narrow a field to > Eric> support an area director and as such should be folded in with > Eric> another area. The second is if all of the qualified people > Eric> have moved on and no one is interested in building the > Eric> expertise the IESG feels is lacking, then industry and > Eric> academia have voted with their feet: the TSV is irrelevant and > Eric> should be closed. > > To be considered qualified the candidate needed to: > a) have demonstrated subject matter expertise (congestion in this case) > b) have demonstrated IETF management expertise (current/former WG chair) > c) have time available > > Generally speaking, people who can not satisfy (c) do not show up on the > list of nominees, as they have to decline the nomination. > There definitely are many people who have (a) and (b), but not (c). > > Were money not an issue, filing this position would be easy. > > The nomcom then needs to look at the remaining candidates and along with > the confirming body (the IAB) determine if they can compromise on (a) > or (b). > > Brian has suggested that (b) is more important than (a). What I'm saying is that if you have nobody that satisfies all three constraints, you have to make a choice, and the choice of (b)+(c) is a legitimate judgment call. I don't know whether NomCom did this and submitted it to the confirming body, or whether the NomCom failed to make a choice. Incidentally, while mulling this over, it occurred to me that RFC 3777 doesn't (I believe) talk about conflict of interest within the confirming bodies. I do recall members of the IAB and the ISOC Board recusing themselves from confirmation discussions on occasion, but that was done on an ad hoc basis. I wonder whether we should write something down about this. Brian