On Feb 26, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Dave Cridland <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Feb 26, 2013 2:24 PM, "joel jaeggli" <joelja@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Finding the current time in UTC could reasonably be left as an exercise for the reader... > > Simple. Go to the UK, ensure it's winter, and ask a policeman. Er, I see a bootstrapping problem here -- don't I need to *roughly* know the time to know if it is winter? Am I allowed to ask the policeman if it is winter? If a have a foreign accent is he less likely to think I'm drunk / playing the fool? W -- Militant Agnostic -- I don't know and you don't either...