In light of the upcoming meeting in Orlando, I have updated the document. For folks that are not on the IETF-86 attendees list, we've had a fairly lengthy discussion about the remoteness of the venue and the lack of access to food other than the hotel restaurants that are often mediocre and over-priced. For folks that aren't familiar, this document has recommendations for meeting planners and IAOC folks in terms of selecting venues that can ensure that IETF participants have access to the types of food they require during the meetings. Lunch is often the biggest challenge due to frequent lunchtime meetings and the volume of people requiring lunch at the exact same time. I wrote this document right after the IETF meeting in Dublin (almost 5 years ago) and given the Orlando venue selection (which occurred after the Dublin meeting) it does not seem to me that the requirements and recommendations in this document are being considered as serious input to that process. While I am the most vocal with regards to this issue, it isn't just me - others just don't want to be the target for the types of discussions we inevitably have on this topic. I will note that if we were discussing wheel chair accessibility to IETF meetings, most folks would understand the concern. In the US, medical conditions that require special diets are considered hidden disabilities and the same legal requirements apply in terms of those diets being accommodated. While IETF is a non-profit, my understanding is they have no legal requirements to provide the accommodations, one would expect such as part of the nature of IETF in terms of being an open and inclusive organization. I will note that there have definitely been improvements since Dublin, including the fruit bars when we have Ice Cream Thursdays and the secretariat always communicates requirements when they are made aware (e.g., WG chairs luncheon, as well as IAB stuff). ISOC has also been accommodating for their Tuesday lunch sessions. As an aside while I'm on the food topic, I didn't learn until last IETF that we don't have Ice Cream Thursdays unless someone sponsors it. Since I was highly disappointed at the Atlanta meeting, I was able to get Polycom to sponsor the event at IETF-86 ;) At this stage, the feedback I would like related to this document is with regards it's readiness for publication as an RFC. One of the updates to the document was with regards to the references to other IETF logistic documents (the Tao and the travel FAQ) which have since been published. I believe this document is equally substantive and applicable to the IETF as those documents. Regards, Mary ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <internet-drafts@xxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:18 PM Subject: I-D Action: draft-barnes-healthy-food-06.txt To: i-d-announce@xxxxxxxx A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Healthy Food and Special Dietary Requirements for IETF meetings Author(s) : Mary Barnes Filename : draft-barnes-healthy-food-06.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2013-02-25 Abstract: This document describes the basic requirements for food for folks that attend IETF meetings require special diets, as well as those that prefer to eat healthy. While, the variety of special diets is quite broad, the most general categories are described. There can be controversy as to what constitutes healthy eating, but there are some common, generally available foods that comprise the basis for healthy eating and special diets. This document provides some recommendations to meeting planners, as well as participants, in handling these requirements. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barnes-healthy-food There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-barnes-healthy-food-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-barnes-healthy-food-06 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ I-D-Announce mailing list I-D-Announce@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt