Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > Responses to Cullen below, but this is getting to the point > where unless someone else who likes the idea wants to join > the discussion, I'm going to conclude that we're collectively > either unwilling or unable to consider 3933 experiments and > regard this one as dead, which maybe means 3933 is dead-ish > too, I dunno. (And before someone asks: no, I don't conclude > that its just a problem with this particular experiment, and > yes, I might be wrong there:-) I object to this (and have come close to saying it a few times before). One of the things that further undermines potential support for something (and further raises questions about intentions) is when people raise legitmate and substantive issues with a specific proposal, and the responses start moving away from responding to the substance to arguments like "Gee, can't we even do experiments anymore", etc., etc. This document is not getting pushback because we "collectively" are "unwilling or unable to consider experiments". Rather, from the list traffic, some folk have real issues with the content. Can you please accept that and stick to the substance? For me, as I've said before, this just isn't an experiment worth spending time on. Too little bang for the buck, and I see serious potential downsides. Can you please just accept that some people have that view? And please don't turn around with the "how will we know if we don't try?" line of argument. There is little need to try something as an experiment if the likely outcome seems clear. Thomas