-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 01/11/2013 01:02 PM, Stephan Wenger wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry for replying to this "advise to secretariat" thread and not to the > ietf-announce thread--I'm not subscribed to ietf-announce. I have three > comments, and regret that I have not followed all of the discussions > regarding this draft before, so please advise if those comments have > already been raised and/or resolved. > > > First, I'm glad that the direct preferences of open source implementations > over implementations compliant with other business models are mostly gone. > Still, there is one reference that worries me, and that is the reference to > GPLv3 code as an "extreme" in section 2.1. Yes, the GPL (and similar > copyleft licenses) is an extreme, at least in terms of open source > licensing models. However, it is not an extreme of openness or > accessibility of the source code for review by WG chair, AD, and community. > I would hope that we are all aware that many (most?) commercial software > developers, by company policy or common sense, avoid looking at GPL-ed > code, out of fear of contamination of their own closed source code. GPL-ed > code is, therefore, inaccessible for verification by a large part of the > IETF community, Commercial software developers can do whatever they want, how idiotic it is (see Oracle vs Google), that does not make them an example to follow. I think that you underestimate the IETF community, who certainly know how to see through all the FUD about the GPL. Sure it may be a bad idea to literally copy 300 lines of GPL code in your code, but that does not apply to what we are talking about, which is reading code. > and does not serve as a good example for "openness", which is how I > interpret the spectrum laid out in section 2.1. A better example would be > source code that is almost universally accessible. The extreme here would > be source code in the public domain. Somewhat less convincing but perhaps a > bit more realistically, source code under a BSD-style license like the one > the IETF Trust is using. - -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Email: marc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJQ88sKAAoJECnERZXWan7ECfIP/RVps46nNG9HCpO96nq4JBIL T1huBNLerYdB9Q1sYHH0B6TxRQMVxZOe11foOiqdm80qlqirwNKPCh4IBobDNYCr 3RIkd/N6CQNjrmTkobr7Vnfk2/E95i7mvkKUxco03tLBsDPqHhZsnrtRdcbDcXgz w79C46auyL5ltAoVRS0T3/el5B9cEAvi0CqrzbiCUJrrG0pdpiyn/gFjrJL7ciKk xZ2E5Mf1HhbpljDsk6Fh90zo+GT11lXo7C3mZyUHtraJfC8HLkt5epYA1zrcM88x VJEW+OiOkDd49/+BtK8We9Lj8LGuBkiyCEBlJUOkAI5zbPxGPYMqzLcJJd76BgXo 9yhpSUwfr2Vtgwu98/oPUD7X30Suk5da7hN6pQGyHU4ZXlKcNDm30XqKcP7GldTv CO/NiiBW0qPorcrfBpkxUanneVkk/E1xG3W7r6w22J2IXqIPAma0/U0hGppPo00C mtY217g9OT+fGJBMxDAJNGEaH6Fak7xcBAMxAcqzj/P9BrSqh+gNgG1PhB6VvD4o yAVtTpHNL/KsQsl9plcNVTkrnbtYoGAhYsV64w39wZCk/arQFmfZlNchVaDAdkuk 1Njt7IzkqH4YaGPyb9NU9bhwF2TNKvaI3RuoVvaLVxCJdRGukgp8n2wbtsPDpwd2 GzR+a9frCq6XxYvoZ8qN =+5ox -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----