On 12/04/2012 09:59 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: >> The concept is simple: a time-specific gather is a meeting. Meetings >> require prior announcement beyond the working group. > > I am not against a meeting announcement. I am suggesting to announce the > meeting where the audience is -- in the working group. Hannes, You've stated your perspective several times now. Each time a non-trivial number of people have spoken up to say that they understand your perspective, and that while under certain circumstances it may be a reasonable one; that's not how the IETF operates. Can we move on now? Doug