> It is a fact of life that some WGs only make progress face-to-face. I > think that's often a sign of a problem, but it's a fact. i am not so sure it's a problem. email is a great miscommunication mechanism. so mailing lists go disfunctional far more easily than face to face. we're funny monkeys and seem to need physical presence. we'll see how we do with remote participation if we ever untangle that charlie foxtrot. randy