On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > So, for myself, as the importance of the work an organization does, the > maximum I am willing to trust anyone with regard to process issues > decreases significantly. > This is not a negative statement about any office holders, past, current > or future. > This is simply a belief that it is important to use more process as the > importance of things affected by the process increase. > I think the old catchphrase for this was "rule of law, not rule of men", and I agree that there are fundamental benefits of that approach. But the starting point of this discussion was questioning why we seem to need process for everything--even one off situations that have "special circumstances" all over them. I think if we could agree to evaluate the impact of individual decisions according to your criteria ("what's the impact?"), before deciding on the need for process, we would be standing on common ground. But it sounds like we disagree on whether we can trust our current or future leadership to make that sort of call. While I think that increased trust would increase the latitude that the community would extend to our leadership in ways that would improve our lot, it sounds like you would believe that this would grant too much power. Is that a fair summary of where we disagree? regards, Ted