Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

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On 9/12/2012 5:59 PM, Martin Rex wrote:
Barry Leiba wrote:
This raises the question of what "expires" means.

At the least, if IDs are published publicly forever, then "expires" is no
longer meaningful and the entirety of that notion needs to be expunged
from the ID process.

You seem to think it means something like "expunged from the record, and no
longer available for viewing."

I think it means "no longer current for the purposes of work and
discussion."

I fully agree to the latter.

Expunging I-Ds that are older than 6 months looks like a silly idea
to me.  Nothing in "Note Well" indicates that an IETF contribution
that is not published as RFC or regurgitated as a successor I-D
will be automatically un-contributed from the IETF.

Nothing in the Note Well, but there is specific text in the ID Guidelines (written by the IESG):

http://www.ietf.org/ietf-ftp/1id-guidelines.txt

8.  Expiring

   An Internet-Draft will expire exactly 185 days from the date that it
   is posted on the IETF Web site (<http://www.ietf.org/id-info/>)
   unless it is replaced by an updated version (in which case the clock
   will start all over again for the new version, and the old version
   will be removed from the I-D repository), or unless it is under
   official review by the IESG (i.e., a request to publish it as an RFC
   has been submitted)...

I.e., this is not a matter of "interpretation".

If you want to change the rules, then it cannot apply to past IDs unless authors give explicit permission, because the IETF would be changing the terms of this statement.

Joe


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