If someone wants to provide guidance on how to do a least bad job with Outlook, that will be gratefully received. But advice that says "don't use Outlook" will be filed with the advice that says "pick another employer to work for". -- Christopher Dearlove Senior Principal Engineer, Communications Group Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK Tel: +44 1245 242194 | Fax: +44 1245 242124 chris.dearlove@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx | http://www.baesystems.com BAE Systems (Operations) Limited Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK Registered in England & Wales No: 1996687 -----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Levine Sent: 09 September 2012 20:26 To: ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: the usual mail stuff, was IETF...the unconference of SDOs ----------------------! WARNING ! ---------------------- This message originates from outside our organisation, either from an external partner or from the internet. Keep this in mind if you answer this message. Follow the 'Report Suspicious Emails' link on IT matters for instructions on reporting suspicious email messages. -------------------------------------------------------- I have to say that I'm baffled at the perverse pride that people seem to take in being so technically backward that they're unable to handle the mail that 99% of the world uses today. While not being a fan of overdecorated HTML and endless font changes, and strongly preferring a mail program that lets me keep my fingers on the keyboard, I can deal with it. (I use Alpine, keep meaning to take another look at mutt.) I remember how to punch drum cards, but I have no interest in using one to send mail in 2012. For the large majority of mail that is written in paragraphs rather than tables, line wrapping is a useful feature, regardless of the character set, particularly for those of us who sometimes read our mail on a tablet or phone while changing planes. For mail that is a table and stuff has to line up in columns, use HTML tables. That's what they're for. R's, John PS: Yes, this is top posted. You can deal with that, too. >Unfortunately there's some stuff going around that line >wrapping with hard line terminations is retrograde and goes >back to punch cards. I guess that's probably true but >aside from the fact that I'm retrograde and go back to >punch cards, myself, application line wrapping and flowed >text don't deal well (yet) with multiple character sets, >fonts, etc. and I'll take readability over application >purity every single time. ******************************************************************** This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or distribute its contents to any other person. ********************************************************************