Randy, On 9/7/12 8:35 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> The IESG's initial thought on this matter was that the bar for >> removing things from the archive ought to be set as high as we could >> get it so as to avoid all sorts of silly requests and DoS attacks >> (and, at least in my mind, so that the legal questions were near nil: >> unless an appropriate court forced us to, our policy was "leave it in >> there"). > please stick to it. we have enough complexity creation already. aside > from at&t and verizon illegally giving all our packets to the nsa, the > high bar is the best and simplest. I agree with your point about complexity and "sticking to it". I recommend a small change to accommodate most of what has been discussed. OLD: > An I-D will only be removed from the public I-D archive in compliance > with a duly authorized court order. If possible, a removed I-D will be > replaced with a tombstone file that describes the reason that the I-D > was removed from the public I-D archive. NEW: > An I-D MAY be removed from the public I-D archive in compliance > with a competent legal demand. If possible, a removed I-D will be > replaced with a tombstone file that describes the reason that the I-D > was removed from the public I-D archive. This leaves sufficient flexibility for the IESG to decide when a legal demand requires the removal and when it's bogus, but otherwise leaves the bar high. I would suggest that Jorge review the above text for appropriateness. I'll also point out that if people start to game us for illegal content, the IESG has the ability to update the policy. Eliot