On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 3:49 AM, John Levine <johnl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> This discussion of DMCA is useful to me as a non-US resident. >> >> Are we sure that the boilerplate included in I-Ds does not constitute a >> statement by the authors that they have not, as far as they are aware, >> infringed any copyright? In other words, isn't the boilerplate a >> pre-emptive counternotice? > > It's not, and even if it were, would you want to find out > retroactively that you've agreed to pay the IETF's legal expenses if > someone sues about an I-D you posted?. For more information, please > see this link in the message you just sent. > >>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limita$ > > I agree with Elliott that we need a reasonable DMCA policy, keeping in > mind that it's pretty rare for a document, particularly a non-archival > one, to be worth the hassle of fighting a DMCA notice. Fighting the > TZ takedown was absolutely worth it, but it was unusual in the > material attacked was of high value, and the basis for the notice was > unusually bogus. Even so, someone had to pay for lawyers to prepare > the briefs and appear in court, and I wouldn't want the IETF to > promise to do that casually. Also it might be useful for the submitter to sign (rather tick a tickbox/radio button) an indemnification clause for the IETF before submitting an I-D. -- Vinayak