RE: NomCom 2012-2013: Third Call for Volunteers

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Sam,

Related to your footnote: Nokia is different from Nokia Siemens Networks
is different from Siemens. So, rather than grouping them all together
more appropriate (and correct) would be to treat them separately.


cheers
Timo

-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
ext Donald Eastlake
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 2:07 AM
To: ietf@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: NomCom 2012-2013: Third Call for Volunteers

(1) Your figures show that it is more likely that a noncom member will
be selected from an affiliation listed by only one volunteer then that
they are to be selected from any specific affiliation listed by more
than one volunteer.

(2) Because of appearances of biased voting membership in some early
noncoms, the rules were changes to prohibit more than two voting
members with the same affiliation.

Thanks,
Donald
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On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Samuel Weiler <weiler@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2012, NomCom Chair wrote:
>
>> I am pleased to report at this time we have 98 qualified individuals
who
>> have generously volunteer their time to serve on this year's NomCom.
>
> Sorting that list by affiliation and counting the number of names from
each
> affiliation, the volunteer list as of Monday included:
>
> 16 Huawai
> 15 Cisco
> 13 Ericsson
> 9 Juniper
> 5 ZTE
> 4 Nokia/Siemens (debatable; see details)
> 3 Alcatel-Lucent
> 3 BBN
> 3 China Mobile
> 3 CNNIC
> 2 Time Warner Cable
> 1 (22)
> Total: 98
>
> Observations: the top four companies on this list have contributed
more than
> half of the NomCom volunteers.  The top three have contributed twice
as many
> (44) as all of the entities that contributed only one (22).
>
> Opinion: the NomCom would benefit from having many "independent"
members.
> While that could happen (yay, randomness), the odds here don't look
great.
>
> -- Sam
>
>
> Footnote: I wasn't entirely sure which of the Nokia and Seimens
entries
> (below) to combine.  I erred on the side of combining all of them,
knowing
> that there's likely a strong argument to be made for some other
treatment.
> In any case, I don't think it will make much of a difference to the
> analysis.
> Teemu Savolainen, Nokia
>
> Jouni Korhonen, Nokia Siemens Networks
> Mehmet Ersue, Nokia Siemens Networks
> Andrew Hutton, Siemens Enterprise Communications



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