Sam, Related to your footnote: Nokia is different from Nokia Siemens Networks is different from Siemens. So, rather than grouping them all together more appropriate (and correct) would be to treat them separately. cheers Timo -----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ext Donald Eastlake Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 2:07 AM To: ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: NomCom 2012-2013: Third Call for Volunteers (1) Your figures show that it is more likely that a noncom member will be selected from an affiliation listed by only one volunteer then that they are to be selected from any specific affiliation listed by more than one volunteer. (2) Because of appearances of biased voting membership in some early noncoms, the rules were changes to prohibit more than two voting members with the same affiliation. Thanks, Donald ============================= Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Samuel Weiler <weiler@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jul 2012, NomCom Chair wrote: > >> I am pleased to report at this time we have 98 qualified individuals who >> have generously volunteer their time to serve on this year's NomCom. > > Sorting that list by affiliation and counting the number of names from each > affiliation, the volunteer list as of Monday included: > > 16 Huawai > 15 Cisco > 13 Ericsson > 9 Juniper > 5 ZTE > 4 Nokia/Siemens (debatable; see details) > 3 Alcatel-Lucent > 3 BBN > 3 China Mobile > 3 CNNIC > 2 Time Warner Cable > 1 (22) > Total: 98 > > Observations: the top four companies on this list have contributed more than > half of the NomCom volunteers. The top three have contributed twice as many > (44) as all of the entities that contributed only one (22). > > Opinion: the NomCom would benefit from having many "independent" members. > While that could happen (yay, randomness), the odds here don't look great. > > -- Sam > > > Footnote: I wasn't entirely sure which of the Nokia and Seimens entries > (below) to combine. I erred on the side of combining all of them, knowing > that there's likely a strong argument to be made for some other treatment. > In any case, I don't think it will make much of a difference to the > analysis. > Teemu Savolainen, Nokia > > Jouni Korhonen, Nokia Siemens Networks > Mehmet Ersue, Nokia Siemens Networks > Andrew Hutton, Siemens Enterprise Communications