On 2012-07-31 14:35 Steven Bellovin said the following: > There are a number of very weird entries that require special > handling. I (also) wrote a Python script to convert the XML file to > bibtex and had to deal with a number of these special cases. For > example, RFC 4534 lists the authors as "A Colegrove, H Harney" > instead of "A. Colegrove, H. Harney". Other names like "The Internet > Society" require special handling. And I completely punted on proper > capitalization of the titles; I just accept what's there. Ah. I'll have to look at fixing cases like the ones you mention, then. Thanks! Henrik > > On Jul 31, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > >> >> Mehmet, >> >> The tool is not INTENDED to change the author order. A somewhat >> incomplete database can indeed lead to unexpected results, use with >> caution. >> >> Ole >> >> Ole J. Jacobsen >> Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal >> Cisco Systems >> Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 >> E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj >> Skype: organdemo >> >> >> On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) wrote: >> >>> Nice tool. >>> >>> However, I am wondering why the tool changes the order of the names. >>> There is actually a reason why documents list names in a specific order. >>> >>> Some of the citations appear to be incomplete, see RFC3410. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Mehmet >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf >>> Of ext Ole >>>> Jacobsen >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:17 AM >>>> To: The IETF >>>> Cc: RSOC; Heather Flanagan; rsag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: RFC and I-D Citation Tool >>>> >>>> >>>> In The Internet Protocol Journal I have been using the following >>>> citation format, best illustrated by an example: >>>> >>>> Julien Meuric, Diego Caviglia, Don Fedyk, Attila Takacs, and Lou >>>> Berger, "GMPLS Asymmetric Bandwidth Bidirectional Label Switched >>>> Paths (LSPs)," RFC 6387, September 2011. >>>> >>>> So, that's full author names "and" before the last author name, title, >>>> document number and date, using the American "quotation outside >>>> punctuation rule." >>>> >>>> I got tired of doing this "by hand" so I asked Henrik if he could >>>> write me a tool. He did (THANKS!), and the result is here: >>>> >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/citation/ >>>> >>>> This will take either the draft name or the RFC number as input and >>>> produce a citation similar to the one above. You can of course play >>>> with the elements and generate a format that suits your own taste, for >>>> example, for I-Ds, in print it might be good to have the FILE NAME as >>>> the last entry: >>>> >>>> Adam Langley, "Serializing DNS Records with DNSSEC Authentication," >>>> Internet Draft, work in progress, July 2011, >>>> draft-agl-dane-serializechain-01 >>>> >>>> ...since I like having filenames or URLs on one line (not wrapping) >>>> as much as possible. >>>> >>>> Many thanks again to Henrik, and I hope you will find it useful too! >>>> >>>> Ole >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ole J. Jacobsen >>>> Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal >>>> Cisco Systems >>>> Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 >>>> E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj >>>> Skype: organdemo >>> >>> >> > > > --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb > > > > > >
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