Re: Oauth blog post

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Hi Yaron,
At 05:52 AM 7/29/2012, Yaron Sheffer wrote:
this blog post ( http://hueniverse.com/2012/07/oauth-2-0-and-the-road-to-hell/) by the editor of OAuth 2.0 made the rounds of the geek news outlets: Slashdot, CNet etc. I am sure many people on this list have seen it. But I have seen no reactions on this list, nor on the SAAG list. Is this too unimportant to discuss? Is there nothing we, as an organization, can learn from it?

OAuth2 is more within Apps than SAAG. People discuss about topics they are interested instead of what you or I would consider as important. I don't know whether the IETF learns anything from its failures. It can always redefine failure so that it becomes known as success. :-)

It is to Eran's credit that he did not seek all the credit when he could have done so. What I could learn from that is that "doing the right thing" will be forgotten when it is convenient to do so. The WG Chairs did something unusual to try and resolve the situation. That's in the mailing list archive for anyone to read if the person thinks that it is important.

I'll highlight the following:

"[the] working group at the IETF started with strong web presence. But as the work dragged on (and on) past its first year, those web folks left along with every member of the original 1.0 community. The group that was left was largely
   all enterprise? and me."

It's not the first time that this occurs. It is up to the IETF to assess whether it is detrimental to have such an outcome.

Regards,
-sm




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