I hear what you are saying. But I think the opinion in the IESG at least was, however, that those three really are high priority, and that other documents before them are not so useful before they are completed. I guess it is a different perspective, whether you do things top-down or bottom-up. I do agree with both points of view, actually. Jari _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf