Re: [v6ops] Last Call: <draft-ietf-v6ops-v6-aaaa-whitelisting-implications-08.txt> (Considerations for Transitioning Content to IPv6) to Informational RFC

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On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 00:52, Livingood, Jason <Jason_Livingood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
To be more specific, at least section 5.5 ("it is unclear how implementers will judge when the network conditions will have changed sufficiently to justify turning off DNS Resolver Whitelisting and/or what the process and timing will be for discontinuing this practice") is now incorrect. It *is* clear, and it's what those implementers are doing as part of World IPv6 Launch.

Does that make more sense?

As the author, if it helps I plan to make the following change to Section 5.5 following the conclusion of IETF Last Call. I ran this by a few folks already and it seems broadly acceptable (have not heard from Lorenzo yet though). 

Jason

CURRENT 5.5: 

5.5.  Turning Off DNS Resolver Whitelisting

Domains that choose to implement DNS Resolver Whitelisting generally consider it to be a temporary measure. It is unclear how implementers will judge when the network conditions will have changed sufficiently to justify turning off DNS Resolver Whitelisting and/or what the process and timing will be for discontinuing this practice, though the extent of IPv6 deployment to end users in networks, the state of IPv6-related impairment, and the maturity of IPv6 operations are all clearly factors. However, implementers may wish to take into consideration that, as a practical matter, it will be impossible to get to a point where there are no longer any IPv6-related impairments; some reasonably small number of hosts will inevitably be left behind as end users elect not to upgrade them or as some hosts are incapable of being upgraded.

PROPOSED 5.5 (NEW TEXT IN ALL CAPS):

5.5.  Turning Off DNS Resolver Whitelisting

Domains that choose to implement DNS Resolver Whitelisting generally consider it to be a temporary measure. It is unclear how implementers will judge when the network conditions will have changed sufficiently to justify turning off DNS Resolver Whitelisting and/or what the process and timing will be for discontinuing this practice, though the extent of IPv6 deployment to end users in networks, the state of IPv6-related impairment, and the maturity of IPv6 operations are all clearly factors. However, SOME IMPLEMENTERS HAVE ANNOUNCED THAT THEY PLAN TO PERMANENTLY TURN OFF WHITELISTING BEGINNING ON WORLD IPV6 DAY IN JUNE 2012 [REFERENCE]. IN ANY CASE, implementers may wish to take into consideration that, as a practical matter, it will be impossible to get to a point where there are no longer any IPv6-related impairments; some reasonably small number of hosts will inevitably be left behind as end users elect not to upgrade them or as some hosts are incapable of being upgraded.

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I think the suggested change does not go far enough. The "high-service-level domains" that prompted this draft to be written, and all the implementers I'm currently aware of, are decommissioning the practice.

So the paragraph that states, "It is unclear how implementers will judge when the network conditions will have changed sufficiently to justify turning off DNS Resolver Whitelisting and/or what the process and timing will be for discontinuing this practice" is still incorrect. Can you just remove the paragraph and start the section with "Many implementers have announced that they plan to permanently turn off whitelisting beginning on..." ?
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