On 02/13/2012 13:46, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Doug Barton <dougb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > I haven't kept up to date on all of the RIRs' policies for granting > > requests, but I don't recall seeing "give me a huge block so that I > > can do CGN" as one of the established criteria. > > An ISP needs a block of size X for CGN only if it has X customers, right? So > they can legitimately go to an RIR and say "I have X customers, please give me > a block of size X". The fact that the block is not then advertized globally, > but only used to number their CGN'd network, is neither here nor there. If they have a legitimate need for "more customers -> more space" I have no problem with that. If they lie on their application about what they are using it for ... > Needless to say, if multiple ISPs do this, it will use _more_ address space > than simply giving them all a CGN block to share. (Unless that's the _actual_ > goal in opposing this, of course.) Um, no. I'm not trying to accelerate IPv4 runout. I get that it's an important problem, and I've been working on solutions for it for many years. But that doesn't mean I buy the arguments that have been put forward so far about why this new block is "necessary" either. > > I've already covered all the reasons I don't buy this in detail. > > I can repeat "2+2=5" as many times as I like, but that won't make it true. 2+2!=5 is a fact. What you and I are talking about are opinions. I happen to think that my opinions are better grounded in facts and knowledge about the topic than yours are, but at the end of the day we could both be wrong about what actually does or doesn't happen. Doug -- It's always a long day; 86400 doesn't fit into a short. Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/ _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf