On 2011-10-28 09:07, John C Klensin wrote: > > --On Thursday, October 27, 2011 14:24 -0500 Mary Barnes > <mary.ietf.barnes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> No food or beverages are allowed to be brought into the >>> meeting rooms and working group sessions unless >>> specifically served by the IETF. > >> [MB] In my opinion, everyone should be sharing their views >> about this. I'm hoping that this is similar to the movie >> theater rule in the U.S. as those of us with dietary >> restrictions for medical or personal reasons will most likely >> need to bring food (I certainly will). And, given that it's >> recommended not to drink the water, I wonder about the >> quality of the potable water, so I plan also to bring my own >> water. [/MB] > > I've already mentioned this to the Secretariat and IAD. IMO, > there are three separate issues: > > (1) The restriction itself, for precisely the reasons you give > and some obvious variations on them. It's quite unacceptable, especially for bottled drinks. > (2) The fact that the restriction has only now been announced, > after I assume that a large fraction of those who had planned to > attend have made non-refundable commitments. If it is the case > that the rule can safely be ignored on your "movie theater" > principle when necessary, that is no big deal. If the intention > were to enforce it strictly enough that it might make the > difference between attendance and non-attendance for some > people, then the late announcement is a very big deal indeed. I assume that most people will ignore such a restriction, and I would expect that any attempt to enforce it would completely fail. > (3) It is normal in the facility contracts, as with many other > types of contracts, to have a provision that the contract and > its attachments are the entire agreement and that neither party > can change or add to the rules without the consent of the other. > Do the contracts negotiated by the IAOC not have such > provisions? If they do, why is this announcement being made at > this time? And, if not, does anyone have any predictions about > the next little surprise? I was once at a conference where the building security people patrolled continuously, and whenever they spotted somebody with a laptop plugged into a power outlet in a floor recess, they ordered them to unplug it immediately because of the "trip hazard". This provided an entertaining game of whack-a-mole for several days. Brian > john _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf