Yep. We are going in circles again. We need to see technical details on the issues documented in an I-D as Stewart suggested. Don't remember seeing such document either. Luyuan > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:mpls-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Alexander Vainshtein > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:18 PM > To: D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo; Stewart Bryant (stbryant) > Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx; mpls@xxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [mpls] unresolved technical concerns > > > Dear Alessandro, > Lots of thanks for a prompt response. > > Unfortunately your response does not really help (at least, me) to > identify even a single > specific technical issue. You may attribute it to my faulty memory, > but I could not remember any. Presenting these cocerns in the form > of an I-D as suggested by Stewart would be the right first step. > > > My 2c > Sasha > > ________________________________________ > From: D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo > [alessandro.dalessandro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 6:54 PM > To: stbryant@xxxxxxxxx; Alexander Vainshtein > Cc: adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxx; mpls@xxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: unresolved technical concerns > > Dear Stewart, Dear Sasha, > I think there are already enough contributions in that direction I > (with many other experts) contributed to in the form of IETF mailing > list discussion and ITU-T liaisons. Unfortunately I regret to say that > some questions for clarification and concerns risen in those emails > (for sure some of mine) still remain without an answer. At the same > time, some comments provided by ITU-T liaisons still remain unresolved. > > Best regards, > Alessandro > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Telecom Italia > Alessandro D'Alessandro > Transport Innovation > Via Reiss Romoli, 274 - 10148 Torino > phone: +39 011 228 5887 > mobile: +39 335 766 9607 > fax: +39 06 418 639 07 > > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: Stewart Bryant [mailto:stbryant@xxxxxxxxx] > Inviato: mercoledì 5 ottobre 2011 12:24 > A: D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo > Cc: adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxx; mpls@xxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx > Oggetto: Re: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: <draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam- > considerations-01.txt> (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for > MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC > > On 05/10/2011 10:38, D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo wrote: > > major unresolved technical concerns > > Alessandro > > Please can I suggest that you write an internet draft detailing these > "major unresolved technical concerns" so that we can all understand > them. > > Such a draft needs to be technical, and describe the actions that the > network operator is unable to perform, or the fault cases that they are > unable to diagnose using the OAM defined in the IETF RFCs, or late > stage WG drafts. > > Alternatively if you are referring to a bug in the MPLS-TP OAM > protocols, you need to tell the community what it is. > > I believe that this request has been made a number of times, in > various forums, and, as far as I know, no document has yet been > produced. > > An argument of the form "you must standardize what I want" > will not fly. What is needed is a very clear technical definition of > the issue(s). > > When we have the "major unresolved technical concerns" > on the table, we will be in a position to determine the best > disposition of those issues. > > Stewart > > > > > > > > -- > For corporate legal information go to: > > http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html > > > > Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle > persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione > derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente > vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete > cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di > provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. > > This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain > privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. > Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is > unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this > message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, > Thanks. > > > > This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains > information which is CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI > Telecom. If you have received this transmission in error, please inform > us by e-mail, phone or fax, and then delete the original and all copies > thereof. > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf