RE: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: <draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt> (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

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Alessandro, Stewart and all,

I concur with Stewart: please write a draft detailing your major technical concerns.

I'd like to add a quote from Malcolm's presentation at the IETF meeting in Prague:

	"Differences <between the solution approved by the IETF and its ITU-T sponsored 	alternatives - Sasha> are close to invisible at the level of the requirements in RFC5860".


Just to remind you that RFC 5680 is the MPLS-TP OAM requirements document.


Malcolm has also said:

	"Many of the issues only become apparent when the protocol and equipment behavior is 	explored"

but, AFAIK, these issues have never been explicitly brought for the consideration. 

My 2c,
     Sasha


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpls-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:mpls-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Stewart Bryant
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:24 PM
> To: D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo
> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx; mpls@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: <draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-
> considerations-01.txt> (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for
> MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC
> 
> On 05/10/2011 10:38, D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo wrote:
>  > major unresolved technical concerns
> 
> Alessandro
> 
> Please can I suggest that you write an internet draft detailing
> these "major unresolved technical concerns" so that we
> can all understand them.
> 
> Such a draft needs to be technical, and describe the actions
> that the network operator is unable to perform, or the fault
> cases that they are unable to diagnose using the OAM defined
> in the IETF RFCs, or late stage WG drafts.
> 
> Alternatively if you are referring to a bug in the MPLS-TP
> OAM protocols, you need to tell the community what it is.
> 
> I believe that this request has been made  a number of
> times, in various forums, and, as far as I know, no document
> has yet been produced.
> 
> An argument of the form "you must standardize what I want"
> will not fly. What is needed is a very clear technical definition
> of the issue(s).
> 
> When we have the "major unresolved technical concerns"
> on the table, we will be in a position to determine the best
> disposition of those issues.
> 
> Stewart
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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