For the record, I tend to dislike pollution of the RFC series with PR blurbs as well. This having been said, I would be far more interested in a discussion about the actual substantive content of the document. Eliot On 10/5/11 2:23 AM, Douglas Otis wrote: > On 10/4/11 9:09 AM, J.D. Falk wrote: >>>> "About MAAWG >>>> >> >> MAAWG [1] is the largest global industry association >>>> working against >>>> >> Spam, viruses, denial-of-service attacks and other online >>>> >> exploitation. Its' members include ISPs, network and mobile >>>> >> operators, key technology providers and volume sender >>>> organizations. >>>> >> It represents over one billion mailboxes worldwide and its >>>> membership >>>> >> contributed their expertise in developing this description >>>> of current >>>> >> Feedback Loop practices." >>>> >> >> Could the PR blurb be removed? >>> > > I think it's useful in this document. People reading IETF >>> documents >>> > aren't likely to know what MAAWG is, and a short paragraph doesn't >>> > seem untoward. I'd agree, if there were excessively long text for >>> > this, but it's brief. >> MAAWG will insist on keeping this. The primary purpose, in my mind, >> is to show that even though this wasn't written within the IETF it >> was still written by people who really do know what they're talking >> about. > I agree with Frank on this issue. The PR blurb should not be > included. If MAAWG finds removal unacceptable, they are free to > publish the document themselves among their other documents. MAAWG > has a closed membership heavily influenced by ISPs and high volume > senders. The IETF has normally resisted this type of influence by not > referring to specific organizations. Such influence is not always > beneficial from the perspective of many IETF objectives. > > -Doug > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf