Hi Brian, On 9/21/11 12:09 AM, "Brian E Carpenter" <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: [snip] >> The Trust would need to commit to allowing these advisors to join their >>meetings too. But that can be done in other ways than the Trust >>Agreement. >> >> (so yes, I agree with this line of thought) >> >> Obviously this all assumes there is a consensus for changing the I* >>chairs role > >...exactly. I'm far from convinced about that. I think the real need is to >figure out how to make the IAOC an Oversight committee rather than it >getting >involved in executive decisions, and to figure out how to make the IAB an >Architecture board instead of getting involved in administrative matters. I totally agree. In addition, if the people that have been given at least theoretically highest positions in the IETF leadership would not like to take the responsibility of the trust, who then would? These people are trustees in my mind as the puck of responsibility ends at them. I repeat what I said earlier, I believe the problem is real and needs to be addressed. I think it is good, Olaf, you brought it up. However, I believe this is a matter of organizing *internally* in the IAOC rather than changing the rules. Perhaps they have to hire help, or get even more of it from the ISOC. Cheers, Jonne. > > Brian >_______________________________________________ >Ietf mailing list >Ietf@xxxxxxxx >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf