On 9/17/11 10:29 , Keith Moore wrote: > > On Sep 17, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Joel jaeggli wrote: > >> On 9/16/11 12:22 , Keith Moore wrote: >>> On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:07 PM, hector wrote: >>> >>>> I don't see these ass "Wikis" but basically "blog style" flat >>>> display of user comments, which I often do find useful, >>>> especially for the user ("this way") upon user ("not always") >>>> follow ups. >>>> >>>> A Wiki is more where you can change the main content and >>>> perhaps even the context. I don't think that is a good idea >>>> for RFCs. >>> >>> I'm thinking in terms of a hybrid Wiki where the RFC content is >>> static but the discussion is maintainable as a Wiki and can be >>> visually associated with the RFC content. You'd also want the >>> RFC content to be clearly distinguished from the discussion. >> >> One of the assumptions here is that discussion without editorial >> discretion can add color to static informaion. While the case for >> that can certainly be made, we have abundant evidence of it not >> doing so in the context of ietf mailing lists. > > we have abundant evidence of there being color added in the context > of ietf mailing lists. problem is, there's a lot more than color > added there. > > a wiki is a different medium than email. because people can alter > and even delete contributions by others, there's some tendency to try > to compromise in order to minimize change wars. admittedly, it's an > imperfect tendency. the frequency with which an opinion is stated by a small but prolific number of individuals should not confer legitimacy over less frequent contributors. >> RFC's (WG documents in general) are the editorial filter through >> which we pass/preserve the contributed discussion that is deemed >> informative. > > > this is not true of WG documents in general, which are often quite > biased and occasionally one-sided. I did not say that they were unbiased, I said that they served as filter on the output. > as for RFCs, there's a lot of overhead associated with them, which is > part of why IETF has a difficult time keeping its documents current. > > Keith > > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf