On 09/04/11 20:39, Eric Burger wrote:
Why? No one has cared about the annual review from 2026. No one has time to do the bookkeeping and spend the effort to evaluate stuck documents.
If there is an RFC that is harmful, then one can always ask to have it moved to Historic.
On Sep 4, 2011, at 10:23 AM, todd glassey wrote:
There are any number of IETF RFC's which were published and then accepted in the community under the proviso 'that they would become IETF standards' which in many instances they do not. Further many of them are abandoned in an uncompleted mode as standards efforts.
To that end I would like to propose the idea that any IETF RFC which is submitted to the Standards Track which has sat unchanged in a NON-STANDARD status for more than 3 years is struck down and removed formally from the Standards Track because of failure to perform on the continued commitment to evolve those standards.
In all cases I'm aware of where promises have been made based on the
eventual status of the document (such as in certain IPR disclosures),
the community has accepted that a Proposed Standard is a standard status.
I refer the community to the thread on -twolevel for all the other stock
arguments on the issue.
Why this is necessary is that the IETF has become a tool of companies which are trying to get specific IETF approval for their wares and protocols - whether they are open in form or not. The IETF entered into a contract with these people to establish their standard and published those documents on the standards track so that they would be completed. Since they have not been completed as IETF Standards the Project Managers for those submissions have formally breached their contract to complete that process with both their WG members who vetted those works as well as the rest of the IETF's relying parties.
As such it is reasonable to put a BURN DATE on any Standards Track effort which has stalled or stopped dead in its tracks for years.
Todd Glassey
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