-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/03/2011 10:51 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: > >>>>>> "Keith" == Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Keith> I keep going to working group meetings that have overflowing > Keith> agendas of mostly presentations, with little time for > Keith> discussion. > > +1 > > And chairs, please don't tell me to take it "offline" --- the meeting is > offline. The list is "online". The purpose of the meeting is to > discuss, not for "presenters" to "present". I completely agree with this, but I would point out that there is some barriers to having discussions during the meeting. I went to one session where the I-D was updated just before the presentation and the slides were not available (that's an extreme case, but it's not the first time it happened). I would have things to discuss about this presentation if I had a chance to read it and think a bit about it. In my opinion, the cut-off as it is is fine for I-Ds that will be presented, chairs should not accept requests for slots without a first draft of the presentation, a WG session without agenda on the Saturday should be canceled and chairs should upload the presentations as soon they receive them. I personally would like to switch to the Tufte style, (i.e. uploading a printout, which can also be distributed to people before the meeting in printed form, and having *only* a discussion), but I am not sure how people will react. > > I understand that for some organizations, unless a participant does a > presentation, they get no funding to travel. Not my problem. > - -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Personal email: marc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Professional email: petithug@xxxxxxx Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk45kJUACgkQ9RoMZyVa61enngCghnXLkseUPCv55TQGhUMUcyRK Dz8An3psJdYaPdiXAZDTRm1gezts3IjY =18Fh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf