On Aug 2, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote: >> BTW, has anyone noticed the trend of doing more and more on the Sunday and >> Saturday *before* IETF week? > > Very much so. > Workshops, joint meetings, design teams... > In Prague, a good number of people started in Friday. > > Nothing wrong with that, but it does put paid to the idea that the IETF is 4.5 > day meeting, and that squeezing it at one end will restrain it. Toothpaste-like, > squeezing the closing Friday will only cause more spillage on the opening > Sunday. > > OTOH, I have good reason to think that the application of more focus by WGs > during their meetings *could* reduce the pressure on the whole schedule. Thus, > the perennial thread on not presenting drafts at WG meetings would surely bear > fruit. Indeed. A few people were discussing this during one of the meetings last week where the agenda was packed to the gills, and the WG chairs were cutting off discussion after just 1 or 2 people at the mic. We were all wondering why we spent any time allowing for the presentation and instead should have allowed the full 5/10 minute slot for discussions/debate. Even better, what if we spent a whole 15 minutes discussing or debating?! --Tom > > Adrian > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf