RE: On attending BoFs

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Murray S. Kucherawy
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 4:06 PM
> To: IETF discussion list
> Subject: On attending BoFs
> 
> I've been encouraged to say this to a wider audience, so here I am.
> 
> 
> 
> A BoF is the IETF's tool for gauging interest in a new topic and a
> potential working group charter.  This doesn't just mean a showing of
> people that would track this work if it were to begin, but really the
> main purpose is to determine the level of commitment to do the work,
> which includes things like counting people willing to review and
> comment on documents, people willing to act as editors, potential
> implementers, and perhaps potential co-chairs.
> 
> 
> 
> When we ask for a BoF room, we need to give an indication of estimated
> attendance.  Sometimes it's hard to make a good guess and so we
> underestimate, intending to keep larger rooms available for groups that
> need them.  As a result, the BoF room is packed.  But when it's packed
> with what have come to be known as "tourists", those people that could
> be counted as committed to the work can't even get into the room, which
> jeopardizes the creation of an otherwise viable working group.  I
> suspect I can safely say Dave Crocker would categorize this as an
> unintentional denial-of-service attack on the new work.
> 
> 
> 
> And it's certainly not friendly to the work that's trying to get
> started by filling a seat in a room "because it's warm."
> 
> 
> 
> Perhaps in the future this should be mentioned to BoF attendees before
> the meeting really gets going.  I certainly plan to do so for future
> BoFs that I run or at which I present.

You're going to ask attendees to self-identify as tourists and leave
the room?  Today's tourists may well become tomorrow's document 
editors.

BoFs are IETF's tchotchkes.  People like new things.  As an example,
Homenet is a new WG (not a BoF), and was well attended (every seat
filled, people sitting on the floor, and standing).

Let's just assign large enough rooms to BoFs and newly-formed WGs
so that the work can start in earnest.

-d


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