On 7/13/2011 1:31 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
Replacing a widely used term ("on the wire") with term that folks will not understand does not seem to me personally to be a benefit.
I think Joe's point is that it's widely used as a concept, but what it means specifically in this document is not clear. A sentence to clarify up-front what the definition is in this document might be enough.
In terms of this document, I do not see a problem with the usage as it is. This is not a protocol document. The use of the current term in this context seems helpful rather than harmful.
It might be reasonable to add a sentence that says, "In this document, 'on the wire' refers to (A) the routing protocol data itself, as well as (B) the way in which routing protocol data is exchanged using underlying protocols, including the headers and other meta-data used by those underlying protocols", or something like that? To me, that's a lot more useful than saying "this term is commonly used" without defining in what sense(s) you mean it in the present document. I think it's important because the protections possible are potentially a lot different, and if you want people to think about only one or both, it should be made explicit. On a lighter note, I once generated a lot of confusion using this term with people working on satellite networks, who were wondering what wires I could possibly be talking about since all of our links were microwave. I guess if KARP covered MANET protocols we'd have to protect them "on the wireless". -- Wes Eddy MTI Systems _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf